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Wikileaks - how to access it

 
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geoff



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PostPosted: 10/12/10, 08:34    Post subject: Wikileaks - how to access it Reply with quote

Anyone recently trying to access the contraversial whistleblowing website wikileaks.org will have found that it appears to be down.
However, this is just a smokescreen (presumably by the American government) who have subverted the nameservers for the site in an attempt to prevent ordinary (non-techy) citizens accessing it. The site is in fact alive and well. If you should wish to view the site just click here...

http://213.251.145.96/

This link bypasses DNS and takes you straight to the site, where you can search for releases by date, country, tag, classification etc, or just browse through them individually. According to Wikileaks...

"The ['cablegate'] cables show the extent of US spying on its allies and the UN; turning a blind eye to corruption and human rights abuse in "client states"; backroom deals with supposedly neutral countries; lobbying for US corporations; and the measures US diplomats take to advance those who have access to them.

This document release reveals the contradictions between the USís public persona and what it says behind closed doors Ė and shows that if citizens in a democracy want their governments to reflect their wishes, they should ask to see whatís going on behind the scenes."


How the Internet has changed our world.

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PostPosted: 10/12/10, 12:16    Post subject: Re: Wikileaks - how to access it Reply with quote

geoff wrote:
How the Internet has changed our world.G.

But not necessarily for the better!
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PostPosted: 10/12/10, 12:27    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, I'll bite...

Rhodie, in all honesty, I struggle to think of many ways in which it had changed our lives for the worse ? The Internet has provided a delivery system for all kinds of wonderful innovations including the World Wide Web, email and more recently music and films on demand.

We can now look up information on almost any subject imaginable without having to order a book from the Library and wait for it to arrive. We can discuss our thoughts and ideas with people from all over the world in seconds at almost no cost. We can buy a wider range of things we need often delivered to our door more cheaply than we could find them in the local shops (assuming the local shops had the item in stock). We can watch a film or catch a TV program when we decide we want to, not just when it is broadcast.

So, how has the Internet changed our world for the worse ?

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PostPosted: 11/12/10, 16:12    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes all of that Geoff and much more. I appreciate all this and I personally get a lot out of the internet. I often reflect on how I managed to get certain pieces of information 15 or so years ago and how long and tedious it used to be to obtain it. This is all for the better and I would not be without it for the world and canít imagine our world without it.

But is it for the better that young children can access the most revolting pornographic websites in the privacy of their bedrooms perhaps corrupting their future relationships with the opposite sex? That online gamers can spend most of their waking lives playing some inane and violent game whilst loosing contact with friends, family and school?

And is Wikileaks such a breath of fresh air? Can international relationships exist without some secrecy between governments and industry? To indiscriminately reveal all is an action of complete selfish indulgence.

I could go on but to support my reply I only needed to give one example that shows not all is for the better.
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PostPosted: 13/12/10, 09:32    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rhodie, there's always been pornography, not just since we had the WWW - I bet if you tried hard enough you could find a cave painting from 5000BC of something saucy. The web is just another publishing medium like the printed page only quicker. Do you disapprove of the printing press because it can be used to print indecent images ? Or the video camera for similar reasons ? Of course not. Pornography is a problem for society to repair.

As for Wikileaks, I think Assange has exposed the hypocrasy of the US government's foreign policy. I agree with you there are some things that should be protected such as industrial secrets and intellectual property, but when governments lie to us I think that is fundamentally wrong.

On the other hand, what a wonderful society we live in, where such leaks are possible. In China, Assange wouild have 'disappeared' by now.

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